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Mayor bounces chief from the 'big office'
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| MAGNETTO |
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| TEDESCO |
I have it from two sources that
Mayor Lou Rosamilia met with Chief John Tedesco Wednesday and told him the new
police commissioner, former Deputy Chief Tony Magnetto, will be taking over his
office once he is confirmed by the Council and sworn in next month.
Tedesco asked where he would be
moving to and the mayor told him it’s up to Magentto and odds are his options
are limited because there just aren’t a lot of places to go. If you’ve never
been on the second floor of the Troy Police Department, it’s cut up weird and
the command staff kind of work on top of each other.
The chief’s office, though, is
nice and roomy and there is a little vestibule where his secretary sits. That’s
going to be interesting too. I don’t think the city is hiring Magnetto a new
secretary but it will be interesting to see what other things he takes from
Tedesco in addition to his office.
As you know, this isn’t the first
time the duly elected mayor has hired a commissioner to oversee the chief. Then
Mayor Mark Pattison hired Mark Whitman to oversee the department and Chief Bill
Miller in the 90s. The same scenario took place with the offices and Whitman
bounced Miller out of where Tedesco is now and Miller moved into the office currently
occupied by Deputy Chief Buddy McAvoy.
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| ROSAMILIA |
I’m not sure how it played out
back then but I’d be willing to bet Magnetto won’t bounce McAvoy to make room
for Tedesco so the police chief making some $120,000 a year will have the third
best office in the department … maybe.
As I’ve written I don’t blame
Rosamilia for hiring Magnetto. He gets his own guy in there and he gets an experienced,
well-respected cop for $30,000 so Magnetto can still collect his retirement
whereas Whitman was making $75,000. Pattison wanted his guy, Rosamilia wants his
guy and neither mayor could fire the chief thanks to Civil Service law. Miller
and Tedesco have two different personalities however and I don’t see Tedesco
just rolling over.
Earlier I wrote it will be
interesting to see how Magnetto and Tedesco – two longtime friends and former
patrol partners earlier in their careers – will work together but getting tossed out of the "big office"
is definitely a stick in Tedesco’s eye after 37 years on the force
and the first of who knows how many power plays between the two.
posted by Talespin at
Wednesday, January 23, 2013
71 Comments:
It is outrageous that one person with more political needs than skills has completely intervened in a management/union dispute and has bamboozled the Mayor into believing it is the right choice. As someone who has worked on and off in this community for the past 36 years, here's what one exactly needs to do:
1. continue to supervise overtime - it's out of hand, and when TPD does not have Tedesco running the ship, they just sit in the car; get your phone cameras out, shoot, and post on You Tube
2. Joslin - he's the community rep., and he hides in his office, does little to no work, collects my tax dollars, and needs to be fired - period!
3. McDonough - another Troy name! The dog catcher needs to answer his VM about 3xs a day like all of us do, and stop milking this union job!
4. Appoint this position as public safety, if we must have a waste-of-my-money, politcally appointed job
5. Draft a resolution to ban semi-assault and automatic weapons - period - does the Council really need a rationale for this?
6. Yes, the boys in power will step, humiliate and demean the boys in power - that's what old white men do to each other - shame on you!
7. The Mayor needs to come off of his cloud, walk around a bit, get to know some of Dems. or it's a no vote - very simple
8. Wade - get off of your bottom, run the party, do something or I will take it over and I'm not Rabbitt!
Tedesco, hold your head up high. Move out of the stupid office and find a better place to work on the second floor. Figure out all of the ways your ex-best friend will hurt you, and just hand him the stuff; it won't mean as much, and will wreck his cruelty. Remember who you are and why we support you! Remember how much support you have, how much money you have saved us taxpayers, how w/o you there would be no community police, outreach and all of the programs that have raised a pretty sub-standard, out-of-compliance workforce into at least the Boy Scout level; if the public knew what you started with and how hard you have had to work to make Troy a better place, they would hang their heads in shame!
But Lou is a nice guy....
Wake up people, this bumbling stumbling act is for real. He didn't even look at Chappy's driving manual on city government. Lou's being led around by Wade and the council. He and Pete can't stand Dunne but Wade says he stays, so he does. They even called Dunne in awhile back and read him the riot act.
Plus, they continuously manipulate civil service to create new positions for cronies and were even able to get Deputy mayor Pete's kid and his cousin hired on the fire department. Nice guys.
Heard Magnetto was meeting with Chappy, LoPorto and the power playersdown at Manorys last saturday. Nice to know Magnetto will be taking orders from Troys wiseguys!
The police commissioner is the top cop in the city and the police commissioner gets the office of his choosing in the police department. I don't understand why anyone would think this is strange for the new top cop in the city to get the office of his choosing. Franco, I agree with you in saying that you cannot blame the mayor for hiring a police commissioner, let alone Tony Magnetto as police commissioner. No one is more experienced and respected than Magnetto (as you mentioned) and the man could care less about politics (unlike our current police chief). I've been in this city for a long time and I know both Magnetto and Tedesco and while I like them both, I believe Magnetto will do a better job in leading the fight against crime in this city. Quite frankly, after last year and the first month of this year, it would be hard to do worse.
546 YOU BETTER GET A LIFE AND SOME SLEEP AND TROY A BETTER PLACE I CAN'T EVEN WALK THE STREETS IT IS SO BAD
Oh please, all you crybabies find something else to whine about! Nobody cares about tedesco except the three of you crybabies that keep posting on here and calling into sound off. Between the four of you, you would each stab one another in the back to get ahead of the other. We know this because we have been watching you do it for years now.
Hang in there Turtle there's still hope that you too may get on the fire department yet lets face it you and Pete's son are about the same age after all. Peters son will celebrate his 40th birthday at his first fire. Well Peter I guess it's a start knowing that at least every 4th day he won't be living in the basement.
put teddy in the basement with the dusty weights!
This is no way to treat anyone, let alone a fine officer with three decades of experience. Lou should be ashamed of himself.
hahahaha!!!!!!!!
Troy cops will never change, God could be the commissioner and the Troy cops will still be the biggest group of winers on earth!
Didn't think it was possible, but Troy has actually found someone who makes the Tutunjian administration look like altar boys. The only difference between Pete, Lou, Dan, and Harry is that Dan and Harry told you to your face what they were doing and didnt mind bearing the brunt of public criticism. Lou and Pete avoid bad publicity like the plague, and secretly blame all of their short-comings on Bill Dunne because he's a polarizing figure. Apparently, Lou should amend his campaign slogan of "people before politics" to "my people before your people, before politics". Man up Lou.
Saw Petes family in the new firefighter picture today. Glad to see they are keeping up with Mr. nice guy Lou's policy of only hiring white people. They have not hired a minority yet.
Tedesco deserves all of this, he's been effin with people for almost forty years!
how many minorities took and passed the exam to be a firefighter?
As you sow, so shall you reap, Chief.
Chief Tedesco has been effectively removed from the picture. Give him a big office, give him a small office, give him a whole floor to himself...really, who cares? Not the men and women in that building.
You had your chance and blew it spectacularly. Now keep your mouth shut, stay out of the way and watch what true leadership can accomplish.
Wait a minute. Lou and Pete have been seen near minorities. You may have a point though, while they have prayed with Rev. Willie, they didn't choose him to serve on the police review board. What's up with that? And just because they finagled civil service rules to hire Pete's nephew and Pete's son doesn't make them bad guys. Speaking of white folks, did the white girl they hired over the black girl on the list move to Troy yet? Didn't think so. I wouldn't want to leave Saratoga County either.
2:36 pm is right on...how many times are we gonna read what great guys Lou and Tony are ? Hang in there chief.
You bloggers are so transparent , everyone knows who is John's cheerleaders on here, Steve,Joe, Dan, Harry a bunch of has beens. Welcome Commish! A man who has integrity! Thank God! The Mayor will see he made the correct decision, when the Commissioner is appointed. Mark McGrath when is your term up?
To the person who commented at 5:51am on January 24th.... REALLY??? Who supports Tedesco? I think maybe three people who he caters to. And yes, he did save money for Troy but - HELLOOOOOO at what cost? Have you seen the crime in Troy lately? Do you drive through Troy with your head low so you don't get shot? Do you have to tell your kids to stay inside so they don't get mugged? And Community Policing was here before he became the chief soooo, once again, he can't take credit for that either. OUTREACH??? Whats that??? Wake up! Obviously you are not getting enough sleep!
7:50 spoken like a true Troy PBA member who lives in Saratoga county or elsewhere other than Troy.
How about that narcissist Kevin McGrath putting an email out proclaiming "we got him" in reference to the arrest of a man in north Troy for braking into cars. Funny the Troy cops did this with out Big Tony and his new office.
where will colonel lingis sit?
Mark McGrath is thinking of listing his home,according to his wife. And how funny was he last night? Who does he think he is, Rand Paul? You are going to interview Magnetto to see what his vision is? Term ends soon Mark, grab a for sale sign and don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
sound like a bunch of people on here that tedesco ignored for a promotion or there wives..get a life and enjoy Lou and Pete while you can...they will be a 1 term and out, seeing that Lou is just a puppet, voted for him but never again, would rather vote for a monkey foer the next 4!!
Franco still doing the former mayor and the soon to be former chief's peasant work. But what I don't understand is why you would want to write about things that will humiliate your friend. Everyone knows he has been demoted, keep rubbing it in and broadcasting that he now has a small office. Are you trying to garner sympathy for the guy who is losing his job the same way he got it, politically? His calls and the former mayor's calls to end OT and get the dept. on the straight and narrow were bulldroppings. Most of those decisions were made by Harenzo, to enact revenge on some cops who KNEW what was going on in his administration. And if you don't think Harenzo acts out professionally for personal reasons, look up how many lawsuits were filed against him and his decision making. Tedesco is losing his job, the new Mayor is getting his man and if the slightest bit of cooperation between the admin and PBA is happening, maybe the streets will be safer. Good luck to the Commissioner. And good luck to the Chief.
Perhaps teddy can take the office of wright of way Johnny one of the Pds most decorated good driving officers
WHEN SOMETHING DOESN'T GO YOUR WAY IT IS A BLACK AND WHITE THING
Congrats to Bob Fitzgerald. He got his man in a commissioner. His payback will not only be unlimited overtime and favorable contracts. Oh no, not for a second. Tony will work tirelessly to get li'l Fitz into West Point. Oh yeah baby, you heard it here first. But before that he's got to make the cut onto the South Troy Dodgers. That might be tougher to do. Maybe Kevin "We got 'em" McGrath can help with that.
Good God who the hell is going to explain what narcissist is to Kevin? Pats in court all day Fitzy painting the new office and Nina working on Sundays mass?i guess brother Ed will have to google it for him.
Google it? Just go to the Urban Dictionary and look under, Honey Nut Cheerio
What I don't understand is why, when Tutunjian was Mayor, crime was his fault. When nice guy Lou is Mayor crime is Tedesco's fault. I guess it is all in the eyes of the spin doctors.
Lou really is teaching Tedesco a lesson, the chief still receives $120,000 a year and now Tony "i can't amke a decision Magetto" is the the guy who is responsible for the dept and the city.
WOW WHAT A LESSON!
Tip of the hat to Deputy Mayor Pete Ryan on the appointment of his 35 yr old son to the fire dept......did Petes nephew also get appointed. You can't make this stuff up!
Certainly no English majors writing on these blogs.
$30,000 is cheap compared to the hundreds of thousands Tedesco and the former Mayor have and will cost the city in the Fitzgerald lawsuit due to their illegal acts.
Wait a second, I'm from out of town. Who's the actual mayor here? Is it Nina, Fitzgerald, Ryan, Lou or Dunne? Talk about too many cooks in the kitchen.
Thank God for Mark McGrath. He's The only sane one left, and dreamy too. Keep doing the last name a good service Mark!! Someone needs to.
Please tell me it's not true that Peter Ryan and Nice guy Lou gave the Dept Mayor 35 year old son that job on the Fire department he must have scored a. 100 on the test and served in the military and runs marathons for the fun of it.
Aren't most firemen in Troy close to retirement by the time they're 35?
Why do people constantly complain about the salary and overtime of Troy cops? They are one of the lowest paid departments in the area and there is no overtime at all. People love to complain when they have no idea what is going on.
@ 9:45 I have no idea where you got your info from? The next time you see a Troy Policeman leave for another department will be the first. Back up your crazy claim with some numbers.
The Mayor and council should hang their heads in shame. What a bunch of fools. This whole thing is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the City of Troy and its citizens. As for all your bloggers you should all be ashamed of yourselves also. I am not a cop or a cop's wife like the rest of you bloggers. You are all a bunch of mean spirited and vindictive people who should really look in the mirror. Election day can't come fast enough and hopefully this mayor and council will be voted out!
You are supposed to be running the city not running it down.
Harry and Dan would have fixed the watermain on their own. They Also plowed. Was Lou behind the wheel of a plow today. Did Lou shovel. Lou is no Harry for sure. Thank god for Pete Zuul and dunne
@ 6:12 look up any contract of the surrounding agencies and they will show you. Albany and Schenectady cops are making almost 10,000 more than Troy in base salary. Cohoes and Watervliet are ahead of Troy. It's no surprise.
I got 92 on the firemans test and never got a call, now I leard Deputy Mayor Ryan's son got a lower score was hired. How the heck does that happen.
At 6:44 That's the name of the game in Troy. In order to be on the police or fire Dept you need to be related to or a very good friend of someone that is or has been on either dept. If you look at the police dept. most all of them are second and third generations. The regular citizen doesn't stand a chance even if they score 100. Maybe that is why the police dept is the mess it is. Same mentality over and over.
At 12:07 maybe they make less because they deserve less. Never can find one when you need to and when you do they treat you with disrespect. Most of them can't ever form a correct sentence. Bunch of egotistical punks.
@ 12:07, So by your logic Schenectady should be making more than Troy. I doubt the people in Schenectady would agree with you.
Loosers!
Dan and Harry would have gotten the 400000 from oniel apartments. Where was Lou on this thank god for Peter Zuul and dune
I wish the Record would foil the firemans list from the city and do a story letting the public know how they got to Deputy Mayor Ryan's son!
In the words of Hilary Clinton "What difference does it make.." Really people, what difference does it make how the deputy mayor's son and cousin were selected as firemen. What difference does it make that they tweaked the civil service rules a little to reach them? What difference does it make if they had to give the agility test TWICE to reach the people they wanted to reach. Why would anyone be concerned about this, if the newspaper doesn't report it, no one will know. No harm there. After all we all agree we must protect the nice guys, the're democrats after all. What difference does it make?
Sondra Little the women of color let go by Peter and Lou would have never lost a brewery to Cohoes. What happened and why did they not wind up on King street? The women from Saratoga county that is not moving to Troy should have the answer as to why this happened. This was not handled well
when are the idiots going to learn that everyone who gets a job knew somebody.
So was it OK that the Police Chief gave a Captains test 3 times in 4 years,,,hum wonder why that was, the person he was trying to get finally passed and was reachable and was made a Captain and surprise surprise not a test in 2 years now....WOW. But thats ok right.
Miss Monica of troy. What have u done for troy yet? Thank god for Pete Zuuland dunne for Lou does not have the answers nor does Saratoga Monica
As an idiot I understand that everyone who gets a job knows someone but still as an idiot and to prove what an idiot I am I live in Troy. With that said this idiot can't understand how a 35 year old man who scored under an 85 leaped a bunch of younger more physically fit men who live in Troy and also scored in the mid 90's and above. It's called nepotism just like the others who where put in the fire house that are second generations firemen. There are also some out here who have said that the "nice guys" went as far as getting DMV records to eliminate candidates that where not Troy residents in an effort to move some people higher up the list. There has allways been the stipulation that you must be a city resident with in 6 months of being hired yet they used DMV records to eliminate people on the list. Nice Guys Peter and Lou who became major players in Troy politics as they beat the "greedy bunch" are now starting to establish a nice reputation off doing the same. People need to start doing the"math" and look at the six degrees of separation of recent hires by Peter Ryan and see how many relation in and out off marriage there have been and how much they will earn as City of Troy employees. Make that 5 grand raise at the county look like a very small amount of money.
Today's letter by the former chief seems to be distorting the truth just a bit. Tell us what happened to all the evidence from the city workers bust. Now that's a letter to the editor.
Todays letter from Chief Kaiser only scratches the surface. Chief Kaiser is an honorable man and as such, he will not detail all of the nasty deeds tedesco attempted in efforts to push Chief Kaiser out. Bad intentions get bad results.
Did anyone read the letter in the paper today about the girl and the bullit prof vest. Oops wrong story.
WHAT ABOUT DANS INVESTIGATION THAT WAS A COVER UP
TEDESCO is as bad as king tut who put him in office? The real problem is social service theres an overflow in our city and 99% of those people commit crime Or have a family member doing a bad deed ,,, so can we blame TEDESCO ? Although the real problem is social service,,,w/ no middle class in our city from the menands bridge to 129 th street or let's just say very little,, so how do we resolve it,,1 way take away there housing,, how do we do that ,,,CODE ENFORCEMENT!!!!!!!!! Give these guys the money and resources they deserve acan they can clean up our city,,,not a cop who get $90,000 a year that produces a cop who retires and walks away with a retirement of $100,000 a year,,,that bankrupts our city,,,get some good families in our city and good family want good housing, spend our money on the people who can produce
and that's our code enforcement ,
Thanks Dave Sheehan
Well said 6:45
I believe that's a good point using code to close down these properties but how and were do we put theses families with there 6 children all with different last names? Further more how confusing is that for the mom to remember all her kids last name? About as confusing as fixing them housing" well thank to uncle SAMs tax payers will find one for them our social services building is the busiest and most productive in the capital dist,,,
The appointment of the Magnetto will certainly make his personal friends on the force happy. Especially the ones passed over for promotions. It is all nothing but retaliation by the PBA. If Fitzgerald is so professional maybe he should refrain from facebook.
Sondra Little what a crock This woman was part of the problem not part of the Cure.
Yes there is way too many people here on SSI-Welfare and its going to way worse before it ever gets better.
As the Tax rolls dwindle there is going to be a huge battle to get people to come here and not just downtown.
Its not rocket science neither good luck!!
He needs his meds. She hasn't world for city in 2 years. Bring you junkyard somewhere else. Obvious after 5 times troy doesn't want u
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