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More talk of a public safety commissioner UPDATED
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| ROSAMILIA |
UPDATE: The PBA and city did not sign a memorandum of understanding
as I was initially told. Not sure what happened but I think it had something to
do with the change in insurance plans the city wants to make for retirees.
Also, I made a mistake, Nina Nichols did not support Riley, but she is a strong
supporter of the PBA.
I’m hearing the talk about hiring a public safety commissioner is again hot and heavy and that it comes down to two names, former Police Chief Nick Kaiser and former Deputy Chief Tony Magnetto.
I’m hearing the talk about hiring a public safety commissioner is again hot and heavy and that it comes down to two names, former Police Chief Nick Kaiser and former Deputy Chief Tony Magnetto.
Odds are Kaiser doesn’t want it
because he abruptly resigned under controversial circumstances – he did nothing
wrong but a close family member got kind of jammed up and I’m not too sure he
wants all that to come to the surface.
If the Council does approve the
$30,000 expenditure for a commissioner that is expected to come down from the administration
of Mayor Lou Rosamilia we can expect Police John Tedesco to not be so happy
about it. And who could blame him. To have someone, in a part time position,
put above him just to appease the PBA – and that’s what it comes down to –
would upset any chief.
And it’s no coincidence the talk
is heating up right around the time the PBA and the city are ready to sign a
memorandum of agreement for the next contract – which I am hearing is going to
happen tomorrow (Wednesday.)
Not sure of the particulars of
the contract as of yet but we will should know more tomorrow (Wednesday.)
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| FITZGERALD |
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| TEDESCO |
If there is a public safety commissioner,
which is a civilian supervisor for the Police and Fire departments, it comes
down to politics. There were a number on the Troy Council – namely Kevin
McGrath, Rodney Wiltshire, Ken Zalewski and Nina Nichols – who were behind
Robert “Rabbit” Riley in his failed attempt to replace Rensselaer Democratic County
Chair Tom Wade. Wade is not known for having a short memory so they will need
support when they run again next year and the Troy PBA, under President Bob
Fitzgerald, is a pretty powerful force.
Also, Fitzgerald and the PBA as
an organization, doesn’t like Tedesco much. I’m hearing Tedesco wasn’t even
involved in the negotiations for the new contract, which just doesn’t make any
sense. In addition to financial matters, like pay raises and what not, there is
also policy and protocol that can be negotiated in a contract like the giving
whatever task the more senior officers’ want regardless of skill or training.
Tedesco tried to shake that archaic system up, the PBA grabs onto it like a
newborn puppy.
My guess is the PBA won. It usually
does.
posted by Talespin at
Tuesday, October 23, 2012
44 Comments:
Get along little teddy
It is appalling to think that a felon (Kevin McGrath) who admitted he was involved in the drug trade has ANYTHING to do with making decisions about running a police department.
It's sad that a convicted drug dealer & a Rev. think they know how to better run a police force than an experienced gentleman, and fine cop like John Tedesco. It's even more bizzare that the nice guy administration is even listening to them. Time for Lou & Pete to grow a set and to stop letting a loose cannon like Fitz run things. Since they came into power, Troy has become the Wild Wild West.
Just because someone is not doing their job, you don't hire an additional person to do that job! You find someone who can do the job with all the responsibilties.
Since Little Louie drives a city car with a police package and lights and sirens why can't he play police commissioner? Is he afraid to make tough decisions? Any decisions? Come on now, this talk is ridiculous. Why don't reverends Willie and Nina pray away the crime? Maybe the Bread Puppet theater can solve the issues plaguing our city because the elected people can't get anything done.
WOW...i think it's great a convicted flon like Kevin Mcgrath has a role. It just shows how nuts the city of Troy really is!
30 grand for what. What good could an additional load on the taxpayers possibly do to stop random shootings? On top of creating a new job for Diva Eye's, cause she doesn't like answering the phones, how many more levels of government does Lou want to create? They're spending money like it's their own.
Nina Nichols supported Tom Wade for chair. The other 3 did not.
It is a shame for the City of Troy that the PBA is running the police Department. The police have no harmony among themselves how can anyone expect them to create harmony in the city. The Chief is trying but nothing he does is approved by the PBA. Fitzgerald is the City of Troy's worst nightmare. Something has to give here. A commissioner is a terrible idea. All that will do is undermine the chief. Nothing constructive will get done. What a disappointment the Mayor will be if he lets this happen.
What is a convicted Flon 1:48? And who cares about Nina? She'll go away in another year anyway - same as the convicted Flon. And spending another $30k to appease Bobby Fitz, is psychotic. Lou & Pete need to start acting like leaders. Too bad Bill Dunne wasn't running things
Thanks for clarifying who voted for wade billy dunne
Prince of the hightops lol
Is the money for the Comish in the new budget if not its over.
But what about the citywide composting plan? How about another plan for feral cats and spay and neuter programs? Oh, but we did a sloppy paint job on the gatehouse at he Mt Ida Cemetery, how nice. Yes the council is working hard. The lefties at the Media Sanctuary brought the Bread and Puppet Theater to Troy to solve our problems by having a parade. Oh yes and the Working Families Party (remember them from voter fraud) was there to help out and stir the neighborhood pot. And before you ask again, no we don't need the millions of dollars Time Warner owes us. We aren't going to negotiate a contract with them until Bill Dunne gets a raise and we get a police commissioner.
Bill Dunne is the answer 9:50? Troy os definitely circling the drain if Bill Dunne is the answer!
Not saying Dunne is the answer 8:41. But definitely smarter than the 2 wingnuts running down the city.
Being able to land a Police Commissioner the likes of former Police Chief Kaiser or Former Asst. Chief Magnetto for $30,000 is a no brainer. The current situation is not working. Tedesco does not have the capabilities to perform this job. He is quite frankly the most inept person within the ranks of the TPD. His followers quickly try to blame the PBA for all of the problems currently plaguing the department. Truth be told, Tedesco at one time was a leader in the PBA. There wasn't any problems then? The PBA was ok then? The truth is, he wasn't a good leader in the PBA either. It is time for him to leave policing in Troy to people that are capable. Stop pretending he knows anything about people and/or law enforcement. The TPD is comprised of many fine, well intentioned and brave men and women who deserve a leader with the same qualities. They don't have that in Tedesco. The one community leader that always comes to his rescue is also a person who lacks these qualities, she was brainwashed by Tedesco years ago when he was trying to get promoted and sought community support. The administration now sees her for what she is, a trouble maker, a gadfly and she is not given the attention she feels she deserves. This administration needs to act now and appoint either one of these fine leaders to bring respect and commitment back to the ranks of the TPD
It would appear that, finally, the message is getting through: Chief Tedesco is a remnant of the former administration and has served to do nothing more than more than undermine the current administration at every opportunity.
The Troy Police Department needs leadership and currently it has none.
30K to mend a broken organization without direction? Money well spent.
we had a police commissioner some years ago and it was just a political nightmare. to go back to that is just stupid. when the troy pba wants a commissioner you know the chief is doing a good job.
Bobby running away from his words and down with Eddie and Aldrich and coop at a place Art Fredette won't even go in. What a narly crew at the 95 ferry club bringing it back to its original roots. Invite Gary Pelvis and his boy wonder Adam next time for great laughs. Somone get the painting dude his meds because hes going off the deep end too. Boatman give eddie something to help with his problem, he would ask coop but he "needs" his meds for himself after the cops took his because of no prescription bottle and license. treeman, you must have something, its obvious especially with thursdays ramblings you arent taking anything. also code check to see if robert charlie has a permit for rehabbing 1510 or for storing stuff at 520. anyone who would hold a no show job, take advantage of taxpayers/candidate campaign sign must have nothing better to do.
John Tedesco is the personification of poor leadership, a walking (strutting), talking (barking) example of how not to lead people.
The Troy Police is in dire need of surgery.
Excise the tumor that is John Tedesco.
So 3:41, your going to knock a member of the community who has done amazing things for that neighborhood? She has invested her time, money, and sweat into that hopeless den of entitlement grabbers. What I find even more comical is knocking Chief Tedesco for his work with her neighborhood group. He was a great, compassionate leader of Community Police. You sound like a cop who John maybe riled up a bit. Sounds like a case of 'LostmyOTtopadmypension-itis!
The delusional sharks are already circling around Rev. Nina.
It seems Zuul, Formerly of the Gatekeeper, had enough this evening. Why didith she runneth from the meeting in a huffith? Emotional outbreaks aren't good for the new peepers. Remember what happened to Mrs Costanza?
She should switch to high tops for a much faster exit.
IT'S ABOUT TIME! Now maybe Troy can be safe for our children again. As far as Chief Kaiser goes, I would love for him to come back. Please Franco do all the investigating you want on Kaiser - you won't find anything except a normal man with a normal family. You are an idiot and have your nose so far up Tedesco's a** it is sickening. Get with the program. The city needs leadership NOW!!!
I agree that it is time for Tedesco to go. The Troy Police Department is a broken organization and the people of Troy are feeling the effects. When it comes to the Troy Police Department and crime and safety, the buck stops with Tedesco. Quite frankly, the department has been in shambles for the past year and violent crime in various parts of the city has been on the rise. Unnecessary lawsuits brought by the community or the PBA have always been lost by the city and therefore, has cost the taxpayers money. The negative press surrounding the Troy Police Department has been non-stop and it is embarrassing. Therefore, we must have a new boss at the Troy Police Department. If our elected officials believe it is in the best interest of the city to effectively remove Tedesco through the hiring of a Commissioner, than so be it, that is why we elected them. The two candidates mentioned to be Commissioner are more than qualified, greatly respected by all in law enforcement, and held in high regards by members of the Troy community; the same cannot be said for Tedesco. It will be an outright financial steal for the taxpayers of Troy to bring either of the two mentioned candidates in as commissioner for only $30k. No governmental department is more vital to a city's safety and economic well-being than the police department. Thus, who heads the police department is most important. Change in who leads the Troy Police Department must occur and it must occur now.
There are 2 things that I am sure of 1 is meet is spelled MEAT and Zuul is Mrs Ryan Cassidy. Please don't ask people if that's you with the new peepers or knot? Enjoy your new office!
If they hire a commissioner for the Police Dept. it will only get worse.
All the PBA us looking for is a yes man and that will be disastrous for the city of Troy. The problems do no lie with the chief. The officers are equally to blame for the mess in the Dept. If this happens the only losers with be the citizens of Troy. The police dept has alwayss been run by a bunch of flunkies and now they are all upset because they finally have to tow the line..
Rosamilla needs to show more leadership overall and support the Chief. Rosamilla needs to be more public and show he's involved in Troy. The tax increase is ridiculous. PBA gets ticked off at the Chief, because he cleans house. He's got a lot of new staff on the force, and they need more training. A commissioner is costly and has not worked in the past. Of the two mentioned, one is viable. However, here is another cost that we don't need to incur. City Council also needs to get involved, meet with neighbors, get Community Police to be more effective in getting to know all of the neighbors, and all in City of Troy gov't need to start promoting some of the good things that they are doing. President of Council needs to set a clear agenda and make it all happen somehow. Rosamilla needs to show a lot more leadership.
The only thing that needs to be changed at the TPD is many PBA members, and some of the leadership, need to start acting like adults. The taxpayers want a strong chief running things. John Tedesco is only doing whats best for the city, and he was doing a pretty good job before with an administration behind him that had a backbone. In any other job, half of you jokers should have, and would have been fired.
Zuul should do something to quell the mutiny.
Troy is a laughingstock and joke when you have leaders like the nice guys, Dunne, Nina and little Bobby Fitzgerald. Amateur hour in Troy!!!
Apparently, Defensive, & Offensive Driving courses must be mandatory at the police academy now. Another payout --wonderful! And Lou, for this one, how about following the Charter and have Silverman draw up the legislation for the payoff, instead of F Lee McGrath.
Fitzy should show his minions where the switch is to turn on the lights in the squad car
Hey Franco you piece of shit why don't you make thees Low Lifers say who they are. Or are you just as useless as the rest of these Scam Artists!
Robert, you are truly a classless individual who puts up these moronic post, which I'm sure may amuse someone with an IQ of 60 or so, but you should realize that Franco is playing you by printing your pysco-babble.
Your rambles have nothing to do with the posting, and you just put up this nonsense cause your alley-rat family isn't getting the love it feels it should get -- for turning over the 101 votes your nephew would have gotten to Lou. Watched & listened to you tonight at the council meeting, and I'm just amazed that you're allowed to go on about nothing every month. Do something positive for the city Robert. If not, just go away. And Robert --yu neds to uses speelcheck.
Class act this tree man boat man dune buggy goon is. Go back to Florida no one wants u except coop
One of the problems with Troy is that is airs it dirty laundry in public. How does it look to the citizens of Troy that the Mayor is considering hiring a Police Commissioner. Does that mean he has no confidence in the Chief. And the possible candidates for the position is another reason why Troy is the laughing stock of the tri-city area. It will never work unless they a hire someone who is not beholden to the PBA, Chief, City Administration, etc. McAvoy, Magnetto, Kaiser......give us a break!!!!! What we need is to work together as a community with the Chief, Mayor and Police and cooperate and report unsavory activities in our neighborhoods. Also, holding landlords responsible for the element they bring into a neighborhood would be a good place to start. What good is the law that currently is in place if the the landlord doesn't get points against their property unless an arrest is made regardless of how many times the police come to the property. A good example of this would be the area of Adams and Hill St
Hey Jeff,Harry,Vito Etc, Etc, why don't you go back to Utica whats the matter?
That town won't welcome you with open arms?
At least I have got the Balls to do my Home work when I do speak at Troy City Council meetings and can back it up with Documents.
Also how many people do you know that can come home from another state after 33 years and get 3000 in cash at there wedding?
Photographer and every thing paid for by friends!
I am not an angel by no means from my stand point you gutless bafoons wont even post who you are and the word ( Gutless ) is the catch word here.
AS far as the Troy PD they never mistreated me here in Troy as a kid.
And if I had something coming I took it like a Man and never showed up in a Court room with out a lawyer.
Also this Newspaper has its own little click and as far as I know none of the employees are from Troy just here for a pay check.
And if not connected to who is in Power at any given time you don't get ant recognition.
So what actually is the Troy record does any one know?
Also for got for all you re pubs make sure you vote re pub especially if you are in a Union.
As we speak The republicans have a bill that will slash the US mail carriers pay scale and slash there work week down to 4 days.
So if they get there way there will be a domino affect to do the same thing with every union that they can get there grubby little hands on!
So remember that saying be careful what you wish for!
Its going to apply to YOU and the saying I keep referring to is You People keep shitting where you eat well you will figure's it out.
Thank you Robert for another delusional rant. You really have some serious issues that you should get addressed. And most of us go to the bathroom to do our business, not in or near the kitchen the kitchen. Get help Robert, we're all pulling for you. God Bless
A public safety commissioner is exactly what we need, Tedesco doesn't care about the quality of life in Troy, if he did he wouldn't turn down federal grants, and he would find a solution, not be the problem. In any business that fails, the CEO gets fired!
And in the real world, people get fired for insubordination. Some of you guys live in a delusional alter universe.
Tedesco is a rat, and he plays dirty. There is a reason there's so many "new" members to the force with little or no experience. It's because of his napoleon-like ways of being in charge. He doesn't like to follow the rules (like following the city charter according to seniority), yet he demands everyone fall into line. How many decent cops have left under his tenure because he acts like a tyrant? Betcha quite a few! People are "insubordinate" for a reason, and there seems to be an awful lot of 'troublemakers' in the TPD, more than usual wouldn't ya think? But noooooo it couldn't possibly be Tedesco's fault now could it. The PBA and Fitzie are trying to keep things fair and square, and keep the 'Chief' from destroying the dept. anymore than he already has in 3 yrs.
For someone who led a Community Police unit, he destroyed it by nearly abolishing the unit a few years ago. No one knows what the other person is doing and he likes it this way. For a city plagued by gun-violence and drugs who in their right minds disbands a drug unit? Duh! Apparently Tedesco thinks it's an ingenius idea.
Time to take off your blinders folks, Tedesco is just as dirty as the administration that hired him. Make no mistake he is public safety enemy #1. Bring on a Commissioner who has the balls to run a police dept. the right way!
Tedesco spends every single moment of his life devising plans to hurt the current administration. The former mayor has said publicly that he speaks to Tedesco daily. Tedesco has a job to do, that is to destroy the current administration and get the former mayor elected in three years. Tedesco said he has a binder with information that he will make public if a commissioner is hired! The mayor needs to bring tedesco to City Hall and tell him to bring his little binder with him and settle this issue once and for all. Bring on a Commissioner now before Tedesco destroys our police department.
Does anybody know why the captain in charge of planning and scheming walks around the city all day in uniform without a gun? Did his gumba take it away from him? And why doesn't he wear his hat? You would think he'd want to cover his bald head! Isn't that one of tedescos stupid rules?
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