Friday, July 6, 2012

More email fun - Tutunjian wants Zalewski sanctioned


You just have to love this town.

This latest e-mail exchange revolves around the Council settling the lawsuit brought by Jan DeGroote over the city tearing down the marquis outside his Cinema Art building in 2006. The city is settling for $30,000, which is a deal given the fact the city hasn’t a leg to stand on. The marquis was safe and sound and should not have been ripped down and because of that the city would certainly pay more should the case go to court.

A couple highpoints:

- Councilman Ken Zalewski claims city crews were used to rip down the marquis when it was really DiTanno and Sons, a demolition crew hired by the city. I was there. I watched them struggle for hours to take it down.

- Former Mayor Harry Tutunjian is calling on Council President Lynn Kopka to sanction Councilman Ken Zalewski for comments he made on Facebook over the settlement of the lawsuit. The comments include the above-mentioned bit about the city crew as well accusations City Engineer Russ Reeves was “coerced” into deeming the marquis unsafe. I’m not sure if he was coerced, but I know he was taking engineering advice from Fire Chief Tom Garrett.

- Tutunjian claims he was not responsible for the demolition but it was his administration so in the spirit of “the buck stops here” it is his responsibility. Should he be personally responsible for it? I don’t think so. Was it a bone-headed move on the part of some he was charged to oversee? You betcha. But, regrettably, the indemnification clause also covers stupidity and/or arrogance.

- I’m not sure why Zalewski should be sanctioned. He’s a duly elected member of the Council and has an obligation to speak his mind. All citizens have a right, but Zalewski is elected to represent those citizens so it’s part of his job. If the citizens don’t like what he has to say, they can use the same ballot box to take him out they used to put him in.

- Kopka is asking Zalewski to put a disclaimer on the Facebook page he runs for the city Council. I’m not sure, but I think Zalewski is refusing.

- Finally, Councilman Bob Doherty does weigh in and says the city should just pay the $30,000 and be done with the entire embarrassing episode. Maybe that sage advice will carry more weight if he puts it on Facebook.





Here’s the exchange starting with one from Tutunjian to Kopka on July 3:



From: Harry Tutunjian [mailto:harry.tutunjian@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 4:20 PM
To: citycouncil.; president@troycitycouncil.com; Harry Tutunjian
Subject: Councilman Zalewski

Council President Kopka,

This past Thursday I attended a Finance Committee meeting of the City Council in which the matter of the pending lawsuit by the owner of the Cinema Art was to be discussed. The Council discussed the topic in Executive Session, as it should have. During the public portion of the Special Meeting that followed I addressed the Council about recent comments made about the lawsuit.

It had been brought to my attention by more than one person that council members have been discussing the case publicly, often blaming me or other former city officials. While I cannot prove those discussions, I have seen postings made by Councilman Zalewski on a Facebook page entitled TROY NY. Those comments which I will attach at the close of this email, are inflammatory and libelous. They also can influence the pending resolution of this matter. As the council knows, I was initially named in the lawsuit, but removed by the judge after my deposition was reviewed. How is it then that Councilman Zalewski finds me guilty and feels I should be held personally responsible for the costs involved in this lawsuit?

I am requesting that you, as Council President, sanction and discipline Councilman Zalewski for his actions. Also, I am requesting that if you choose not to act, you ask that the City's Ethics Board conduct a thorough review of the matter. His actions violate the ethics of his office and were not in the best interests of the City in accordance with his oath of office. He should know better than making baseless accusations on a social media site, especially on pending litigation. Sadly, it isn't the first time.

If you choose to ignore this request I will be forced to consult with an attorney to take the next appropriate step to force Councilman Zalewski to cease and desist and correct the following malicious statement:

Ken Zalewski
 John, everyone that was around in 2006 knows that the marquee was safe and stable. It took city workers an entire day to cut through the I-beams. The City Engineer was coerced into declaring the marquee unstable. I don't fault Russ Reeves, because he was doing what he was told to do. I fault whomever gave him the order - which was either Harry Tutunjian or Dan Crawley. Russ fell on the sword for one of them. I suppose the Council could subpoena him if we want to dredge all of this up again. I'm not inclined to do so.


Ken Zalewski Don, not a bad idea. Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for the previous administration's follies? This was a clear example of "sending a message" by destroying a piece of someone's business. Now, my colleagues and I are faced with voting on this settlement. Do we vote for the settlement and put this behind us (at a cost of $30,000 - money that could be better spent elsewhere), or do we reject the settlement, go to court, and most likely lose? We're pretty much stuck approving it, and the taxpayers are stuck paying for this little stunt. This was certainly a low point in the previous administration's tenure - government at its worst.





I hope to hear from you within five business days.

Thank you for your time.

Harry J. Tutunjian
31 24th Street
Troy, NY 12180
 



On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:20 AM, lynn kopka <lkopka@earthlink.net> wrote:
 
Ken - It has recently come to my attention that the Troy City Council
facebook page is administered solely by you. As such, it is not our
official site/page.

Please put a disclaimer on the City Council facebook page that it is not
the official site/page of the Troy NY City Council and is administered
solely by you.

Thank you. Lynn




----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Robert Doherty
To: citycouncil.
Cc: bodnar@troycitycouncil.com; galuski@troycitycouncil.com; kmcgrath@troycitycouncil.com; Lynn Kopka ; mmcgrath0123@yahoo.com; nicholsfortroynow@gmail.com; Rodney Wiltshire ; zalewski4troy@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Councilman Zalewski



Former Mayor Tutunjian,

Of course, you are free to take any action you choose.  Please note, I have always exchanged pleasantries and been respectful in our casual encounters.  At Finance last week, you made a clear statement that you wished to not be a subject of ongoing derision or personal criticism.



I voted to settle the lawsuit in discussion for $30K, with an idea that public conflict and risk of higher liability  might be diminished in the world of Troy City Administration and our civic life.  Councilman Zalewski has referred to the lawsuit involving about marquee removal in infrequent conversation relevant to liabilities.  i understand that he was involved at that time by complaining constituents.  I think he may have witnessed the activity on River Street as it occurred.  In these minor and infrequent discussions, the subject has not been of or about you in any personal manner. We discussed liability of this outstanding lawsuit.  I have not read his postings, but he has always been business like and factual in my experience.  An unavoidable fact is that you were initially named in the lawsuit along with another administration professional.  It is a wise thing for us to understand and avoid future liabilities such as this one.  Therefore, discussion is appropriate and necessary. It also does not need to be done in public, although we need to comply with "Open meetings " law.  



I think  we are done with this matter entirely.  Your dialogue and potential legal action will prolong this unproductive, and i sense painful, experience for you.  I believe we are moving along, gaining experience, and hopefully will be gaining in productivity and usefulness. Councilman Zalewski is a significant contributor in these efforts.



Nicely, in the neighborhood blogs I read, the combativeness and unproductive personal criticism has clearly diminished, leaving only a few private citizens with that old style.   I believe the all too frequent style of personal criticism and argumentative challenges tarnish Troy's image to outsiders, hurting commerce and progress.



I wish you a peaceful mind and my regards.    Truly,   Bob Doherty, Troy City Councilman, District 4 



 ---- Forwarded Message -----
From: "emcgrath@nycap.rr.com"
To: Ken Zalewski ; lynn kopka
Cc: all-members@troycitycouncil.com; lcoburn@mmlesq.com; Ian.Silverman@troyny.gov; karla.guererri@troyny.gov; Gary.Pavlic@troyny.gov
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: City Council facebook page



Ken, i appreciate your efforts in utilizing the page for what it should be used for. Please continue your efforts on behalf often myself. Tjanks
 ---- Ken Zalewski <zalewski@troycitycouncil.com> wrote:
Lynn,
 
The Troy City Council Facebook page has been administered by me for the
last three years.  Bill Dunne and John Brown also had management privileges
until they were no longer Council members, because they were the only
members who expressed even a slight interest in helping out.
 
The page contains a disclaimer that any opinions expressed are that of the
Democratic majority, after issues were raised by others.  However, most of
the postings are simply announcements about meetings, legislation that we
have passed, and links to meeting videos.  As such, it delivers on our
promise of more open and transparent government, and shows a willingness to
engage with citizens publicly.
 
I have tried to keep the page factual and objective.  In fact, when Bill
Dunne posted some negative remarks about Carmella Mantello during the
election cycle (as "Troy City Council", not as himself), I removed those comments and asked that Bill not use the page in such a manner.  He was
upset by that, because Jeff Pirro had used the "Troy, NY" page (with a
readership of over 7,000 fans) to disparage Democrats and silence critics.
I understood his point, but felt that we should try to stay above the
fray, so to speak.
 
I have spent a great deal of time keeping our page running and making it an
informative place for citizens to visit.
 
The Troy City Council Facebook page has nothing to do with my comments
about the Cinema Arts lawsuit, which were left on the "Troy NY" Facebook
group - a privately-run page where citizens often express their grievances
regarding city government.

Ken Zalewski
Councilman, District 5
 
 








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46 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Councilman Bob,

You are correct in your comments regarding the combativeness in Troy politics a year ago, but that's because things were happening. Seven months into the new regime, and all progress in the city has come to a screeching halt. There is no more arguing, because there is nothing to argue about.

Where is McDonald's? One Monument Square? What about using the Dauchy building for a permanent City Hall?

Activity and arguing is better than this lazy, happy group that agrees with each other all the time.

July 6, 2012 at 3:11 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But they are doing it for the cats...

July 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, the Troy NY page that is operated by a private citizen that has been arrested 3 times in the last month, with last one a narcotic arrest with his child in the car really has no room to talk and bad mouth Harry or anyone else for that matter..People that live in glass houses should never throw stones!!

July 6, 2012 at 9:15 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, why is Harry posting anything regarding the City of Troy? He is now a County Official. Which by the way was a big mistake in of itself.
2nd, Di he screw up. Of course, That was all he did his second term in office. Just as i predicted, he fininsed out his forst term and didn't give a darn about the City or it's voters/tax payers in the secnd term. Which, ws probaly one small reason Dan Crawley Left as Deputy Mayor before his term was up. But the other reasons are an entirely different animal.

Settle this suit and be done with it. Regardles of whatever events took place in that building. It was a beutiful and excellant part of Troys History. I just wish it could be a theater again. But with out the "Adult" themed movies.

As for Kopka. What can I say? She needs to go. Same with Dunn. Both are relics of the former Administration which this City does not need.

As for Russ Reeves. Russ, you are a nice guy, But! Face it. You are a "Sell Out". It's like you "Cow Tow" to the highest bidder. Maybe it's time yo move on as well. You are not a "Team Player. You are more like a "Mole". Sorrry, but that is the only way I can best discribe your relationship between the City and it's tax payers.

Jeff Pero? Huh! Good Ridance!

As for The Legal Council! Pack up and Move on with Kopka. Maybe all of you can start another Facebook" page.

Now for Lou..... Lou, in just 7 months, you have proven to be notihng more than a disappointmet for the City and voters of Troy. I'm so sorry you had to leave your post at HVCC to do so. I will say, while you are good with numbers. Your skills for logic, resoning and progress and vision have been totally ineffective. All you have done, regarding a New Cityhall, is exactly what Harry did. Sign a contract that will cost the tax payers more money. This is not acceptable. I just hope you will not consider a second Term as Harry did and just end up milking the tax payers and driving this City further into demolition nightmare.

Come the next wlection, I just hope the voters of Troy have more sence than to re-elect those I have named above. Look for a Mayor with real integrity and a REAL vision for the City. Not just pipe dreams.

July 6, 2012 at 9:59 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harry your not the mayor any longer grow up,you need to get a life. The citizens of Troy are so over you! Wah, way ,way someone talked about me! Sniff sniff

July 6, 2012 at 10:51 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for your post 9:59. We need Nichols For Troy NOW. Maybe Lou won't finish his term and we will get Nina sooner. Let us form a prayer chain and a drum circle.

July 7, 2012 at 8:54 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The whole city structure is full of vultures fighting over the scraps for their political party, while the citizens have tuned it all out.

By now, it should be painfully clear that the Troy Dems are just looking for complete domination over Repubs. They will bankrupt the city in the process, while the city lumbers on in a state of apathy.

They draft Lou, a "clean" guy, to be nothing more than a smiling figurehead that stays in his office and signs some papers, while political enforcer Dunne plots out the next hit job.

Will Dunne is the director of planning for the Democratic party -not the city of Troy. He reports to Tom Wade, and no one else.

July 7, 2012 at 8:59 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comments from the 9:15 post about he TROY NY page are sklanderous and liable. The operatoet of the paige dioesn't have a license so how coulkd he even be driving? your all hipocrytes. Now Im gunna by one of my kids ice creams aftet I score some oxycondones. Im outta here so I canz go back to facebook and friend some strippers.

July 7, 2012 at 8:59 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again Bill Dunne talking through Doherty.

July 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM 
Blogger Robert said...

Hey Harry how creepy can you get!
I was behind you in Traffic U still have Your re election van so much for being in stealth mode DUH! Bumper stickers still on that Junk heap van.
Harry the smirk on you face will be gone soon what a looser.
By the way The Record don't need you any more so they are going to drop you like a used contraceptive.
Just go away Harry Far away ASAP.

July 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city of Troy was a much better place to live when Harry left office, than it was when he began his first term. Let's give Lou a bit more time to grow into the job, and he'll do a fine job. Lou's people should stop passing the blame to Harry for any little thing that happens though. Shows a complete lack of class

July 7, 2012 at 9:50 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 guys that never changed a diaper. Kenny zzzzzzzzzz you really do hide behind keyboards why dont you borrow a set and man up face to face one time. This is all you have to do for the city of Troy?

July 7, 2012 at 11:34 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again Zalewski just spews venom on his little computer, never letting the facts get in the way. He dislikes the city workers so much he acusses them of taking down the marquis. Totally false.....I think he should write a letter of apology and run it in The Record.

July 7, 2012 at 12:22 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's face it, Harry isn't getting the same amount of press on the Legislature that he generated as Mayor. That's a good thing. He is now part of a larger disfunctual group that administers nothing but press releases generated for them by someone paid to do so. I know Harry and Dan and Russ and Mirch, et al, are personally protected from having to pay for thier childish vendettas. The taxpayer is once again the victim and honestly should pay. The voter, time after time, voting party line in the whole of the City and County shoot themselves in the foot. You should have to take a simple, one line, reading comprehension test in English, before admission to the polling place!

July 7, 2012 at 1:57 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 9:59 Sober up before you hit the keyboard...

July 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harry (or his staff) ordered the sign ripped from its mouring. For something that was unsafe, it took multiple men cutting through beams to rip it from the building. Harry continues to be a cry baby, and now that he has no one to protect him, he looks for a lawyer. Sounds like Mirch has been giving him advice.

July 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My personal favorite quote, from Harry to Lynn, is as follows "you ask that the City's Ethics Board conduct a thorough review of the matter. His actions violate the ethics of his office and were not in the best interests of the City in accordance with his oath of office." Tis is priceless. Hahaha Considering Harry cost the city tax payers a bundle with his antics tearing down the old City Hall in a childish act of sneaky behavior. He didn't even have a thurough check for asbestos done. Talk about a breach of ethiics and not having the citys best interest in mind. LOL, God! I love it. I just can't stop lauging of this quote. Now lets talk about " personal attacks" hahahahaha. What does HArry call all the statements made agains his opponants? little jabs? Hahahaha

The best thing that has wver happened for Troy was to get rid of Harry, Mirch and Crawley. "The 3 Stooges". Now, if the city could just get rid of a few other relics of Harry's administration along with the current mayor ( who has proven to be useless, but at least better than Carmela) Toy could become a much better place to live, besides a "B & B" ( Booze and Brothel) City. All the little concerts and shows are not going to change this City. Wht will cahnge this City is A mayor and Administration who know the real meaning of "in the best interest of the People". This City needs a leader and visionary who is not just in it for the perks and title. Hopefully that will all change with the next election.

July 7, 2012 at 6:54 PM 
Blogger Robert said...

Hey I am the only one who don't click on anonymous any more and I don't candy coat what I see I tell like I see it.
Is Franco censoring me is the record protecting me LOL.
Lets face it I guess I will have to go back to plan B & keep talking & telling the real truth at the council meetings & get the ten minutes not that its going to change the countless Felonies that Mirch did while he was on Duty.
Also the fact That Mirch still goes to Harry's in the morning for there pep talks of how they might be able to get back control of the city some how pipe dreams.
The fact is that I decided to not go anonymous any more kinda like when women go commando & don't where any under garments & flaunt it LOL.
Regardless of what I say the previous Felons who had control of the City will always for the rest of there natural lives still try to destroy some ones livelihoods & stop some ones dreams.
In the end whole Troy will probably be sold at auction for back taxes.
Remember death & taxes are certain ha ha ha ha.

July 8, 2012 at 3:25 AM 
Anonymous Troy Voter said...

Nichols would make an excellent mayor with a little more seasoning. She's smart, articulate and a leader. Regardless of where folks stand on the legislation she's put forward, she's doing he job and doing it with class. Definitely earned my vote in the years to come.

July 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All self absorbed! Crybaby Harry. Bigest bully of them all!

July 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Harry was able to write that Email by himself.

The new Mayor is a smiling, gnome-like Marionette puppet with wooden teeth, with the strings pulled by Bill Dunne and Tom Wade. The Dem party won't even trust him talk on the phone, as Mike Frazer is instructed to handle all communication with anyone.

We do not currently have a Mayor, what we have is a mannequin.

July 9, 2012 at 8:13 AM 
Blogger Talespin said...

As a note, as a rule I don't post comments that include name calling and/or unwarranted attacks on people but Robert's last post was pretty funny so I made an exception.

Jim Franco

July 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Robert is talking about the Troy felons yet he fails to mention the one felon close to Robert .......that's his brother Jack convicted right here in Rensselaer County.

Maybe Jack didn't tell his brother!

July 9, 2012 at 2:20 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim I am now convinced you are truly delusional after reading your last post.

July 9, 2012 at 5:40 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahaha, I concur James. Robert, Keep the humor rolling. Nothing better than some memories of Harry and the other 2 stooges. BUt remember. Ther was also a forth sttoge. he was the one most don't remember and received very little atention. Harry, Mirch, Crawley and ___________? Definaltely not Perro or Russ. They took turns at playing Panocchio.Someday one of them will be a real boy.

July 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM 
Blogger Robert said...

This ones here to break up the Summer Doldrums.
Hawaii has a huge migration of Japanese citizens this is proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwr6yMcD7Kk&feature=related

July 9, 2012 at 9:11 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nina "nanny" Nichols as Mayor???!?!?!? Is this what this city has come too? Only in Troy....only in Troy.

July 9, 2012 at 11:54 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nina Nichols for Mayor? That's hillarious. Her major achievement thus far is authoring a useless smoking ban in public parks.

The night I witnessed her crying in the back of her church at a council meeting with a mother who's 18 year old thug son got arrested for resisting arrest at 2 am, was the moment I realized one of two things.

One- she's a good actor who will go pretty far for a vote.

or Two- She has no idea what goes on in the streets of Troy and would be a horrible reprsentative of those who risk their lives trying to make this city safe.

July 10, 2012 at 5:26 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ken - you have never been able to demonstrate how I used the Troy, NY Facebook page to "silence critics". I posted links to articles that were interesting, like all of the voter fraud perpetrated by you and members of the Troy City Democratic Committee. Also, I simply managed to keep the conversation civil and professional unlike your participation on Randy Cooper's Facebook page, where you referred to me and former Mayor Tutunjian with unprofessional epithets. You also sat idly by while others used even more base comments and threatened physical violence; inaction doesn't make you not guilty. Randy Cooper's three arrests are public record and therefore should be permitted to be made public (even if not deemed newsworthy).

Jeff Pirro

July 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM 
Blogger Robert said...

Hey Jeff as one of the Cox Family its plain to see you fell in with a bunch of people who are destroyers of Troys Image way worse that Randy Cooper incidents.
Jeff when I was growing up in Troy some people had at least some Honor.
You Jeff have non because you won't look Randy Eye ball to Eye ball and say Boo!
On the other hand Like I have been saying all along every dog has his day Jeff !

A Rat is a Rat once you rat some out & don't take your own beef and stand as a Man your nothing Jeff !
That's as good as it gets !

July 11, 2012 at 1:18 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody seen Clem!

July 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Randy's 3 arrest in the last month..lets not count all the other ones he has had, pretty pathetic that he would bad mouth Harry or Jeff when he needs to clean his own house, and when there is an active warrant for his arrest!!

July 11, 2012 at 7:09 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"destroyers of Troy's image"?! PLEASE! Just take a look at the latest Cox family property renovation project across from snowman!

When you were growing up people had honor - HA! Did they have garbage bags and trash cans? because that concept seems to be missing from your vocab and your stellar upbringing.

July 12, 2012 at 9:26 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Murphy to park his corvette on the site up on fifth

July 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At pig out and have one question. Where is bull and why is silva from the commerce so involved recently. Hmmmmm

July 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every day

Can someone please tell me why after looking at The Record every day and seeing Mark McGrath complaining about something that one of the Democrats on the city council has done wrong? While he was on the Republican controlled council and Harry Tutunjian was mayor, we never saw his name in print. Never. Only when he did something good, which was rare. Now we have to look at him every day.

July 15, 2012 at 6:56 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if this administration is going to start paying for people's tires that get popped from potholes, like the administration before Harry used to do. Pay em off -- too much to litigate mindset.
Here's a fact for Zelewski. The Cinema Art was nothing more than a breeding ground for AIDS. All sorts of weird, and perverted acts going on inside -- right in the heart of downtown. He should ask the businesses around that area how much safer they feel now that the pervs are gone at night. That place was like a freak show. Or he could ask the State Police Forensics Team what happened when they put the 'blue light', which illuminates spilled body fluids. There were more spots that glowed then one that didn't. Good riddance to any memory of that den of filth. It was worth the money to get rid of it from our downtown. Zelewski should keep his mouth shut regarding any lawsuit against the city // win or lose. Maybe he can commission a panel to do one of those 6 month studies that end with no results. And why didn't he em-panel a committee to study the upcoming move of city hall to a 5th floor penthouse like he did the last time moving to the Verizon -- which we could have had in an even swap for 1 Monument Sq., if you remember correctly.

July 15, 2012 at 8:04 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all really sad. Mayor Lou needs to be out and about a bit more, promoting what he is doing. Kopka needs to fence in her Council and learn to debate in private. I am sure that they are doing good things, but I do not believe it is coming across that way. Meanwhile, Harry clearly has nothing better to do than to attend every city meeting and ribbon-cutting ceremony in Troy to make sure that we all know he wants to be Mayor again. ... doubt that will happen, but we can all dream.... As for Ken, he's an ethical guy and needs to take the higher road on all of this petty crap. Let's get the City Hall drama over with, save some money and better promote the good things that are going on? How about a comment on placing the Pig Out in the middle of a 100-plus degree tar pit? Anyone ever think about Sept., when it's cooler?

July 17, 2012 at 10:24 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who is bob doughty? is he the new buell????

July 17, 2012 at 10:36 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no silva is

July 17, 2012 at 10:36 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, how 'bout that Pig Out in a 110 degree tar pit! I suspect the layout was developed by the amateur hour downtown business staff! Here, let's help: Select a month in which the weather is cooler - say, Sept.! Make a layout up and down River where the Farmer's Market is... after it closes (stay with me, I know this is hard). In that way, you'll actually continue the business day. Also, ask that the retailers stay open for all of this... Offer some sort of coupon... 10% with some sort of evidence that you went to the Pig Out...Hmmm...

July 19, 2012 at 7:49 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good idea Jeff. Maybe next year if UGoc sponsors

July 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM 
Anonymous Ry said...

Its all silva

July 23, 2012 at 8:07 AM 
Blogger Bill Bruce III said...

Hey Randy, why did you kick me off "your" TROY NY Page? You even banned me.. And, to think I was always on your side.. Makes no sense to me? Maybe YOU will be a man now and answer me. I also put my name to everything, nothing to hide, and not scared of anything. Thanks.
Bill Bruce III

March 19, 2013 at 11:06 PM 
Blogger Bill Bruce III said...

Randy Cooper, why did you delete and ban me from "your" TROY NY Facebook Group? And to think that I was on the same side as you on the majority of issues.. You tried to act like you didn't k.ow what happened, and you were going to get back to me? It's been a couple months now..
And, just like Robert Cox, I also put my name on anything I say. All this "anonymous posting is b.s.
So get back to me, and tell me why.

March 19, 2013 at 11:17 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

^ When are you going to answer this guy, Mr. R.C?

April 9, 2013 at 3:12 AM 

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