Monday, June 11, 2012

Monday's print edition: There is talk of deal for Rosney

Now that the shock ofSgt. Pat Rosney’s arrest is behind us there is, of course, all sorts of talk about what happens next, what kind of punishment he’ll get and whether or not it fits the crime.

Word is, the plea deal in the works includes the 53-year-old, 26-year veteran of the Troy Police Department serving no jail time, spending five years on probation and registering as a sex offender. He stands charged with attempting to disseminate indecent material to a minor and endangering the welfare of a child after getting caught up in an internet sting where the 14-year-old girl he propositioned was actually a detective from the New York City Police Department. Obviously, there is no deal finalized yet so all that could change but that’s the talk as of right now.

Rosney is innocent until proven guilty, as is anyone charged with a crime, but after reading the deposition from the NYPD detective — the photo Rosney allegedly sent of his penis was, mercifully, withheld — it sounds like he really doesn’t have that strong of a defense so I see no other way out but copping a plea (no pun intended.) If he takes it to a jury, and he’s found guilty he’s looking at four years in jail. That penalty would have increased substantially if the NYPD kept the ruse going long enough for Rosney to actually make the trip to Queens and meet up with the “14-year-old” but he was arrested in Troy, days before the meet-up was scheduled.

I talked to some cops and some defense attorneys about the plea deal and the timing of the arrest and both are plausible. While the courtesy of arresting him before the meet-up probably wouldn’t be extended to ordinary civilians, it’s not that unusual given the fact part of being a cop is having the right to carry a concealed firearm — at the time anyway — and officer safety is of paramount importance. In the NYPD’s mind, there wasn’t any sense in taking a chance on inviting an armed man into a sting when he could have just as easily been arrested beforehand.

To the second point, the no jail time and five years probation one, I guess as far as the legal system is concerned we have to put aside the fact he is a cop. He’s a first time offender — as far as we know — and it’s a non-violent felony. And it’s out of New York City, where some eight million people live so I’m guessing there are thousands of non-violent felons clogging the court system. In the grand scheme of things, what Rosney did — and was going to do — probably isn’t high on the priority list. Right or wrong, that’s just the way it goes. In a lot of ways New York City is a different world because up here, I don’t think just probation would fly.

Yea, I know, on the one hand he got off with a lighter charge because he was a cop and legally could carry a gun and on the flip side of that he could very well plea to a sentence as if he were just one of eight million people facing a non-violent felony and didn’t carry a badge for 26 years.

Anyway, needless to say, its’ widely expected Rosney will retire as soon as possible and, as per state law, collect his full pension for 26 years on the force. Again, right or wrong, that’s just the way it goes.

Outside of a quick and quiet plea/retirement, the only outstanding issue is what, if anything, they found or will find on the four computers confiscated from his City of Rensselaer home. I’m told the days and times Rosney was chatting with the “14-year-old” he was either on vacation or off duty but they are checking his TPD computer too.

Obviously, if anything incriminating is found, all bets are off as far as the plea goes.

Smoke and mirrors

The much talked about Troy smoking ban might have passed but then again it might not have — it depends on who you talk to.

Some say the ordinance banning smoking from parks and playgrounds where children congregate needed six votes since it wasn’t aged properly. Others claim the aging process started when the Parks and Recreation Committee moved it to the Council agenda and the five votes it got is sufficient.

Based on the Council’s abysmal track record of following the proper procedures I’m guessing it needed six votes.

But, from a legal standpoint — provided Mayor Lou Rosamilia signs the legislation, which he has indicated he will do — it won’t make a difference unless some smokers’ rights group challenges it in court. From a practical standpoint I don’t think it means much either. I just don’t see Troy cops out there patrolling playgrounds on the lookout for someone smoking a Marlboro.

What it does, though, is allow the city to put up signs on said parks and playgrounds warning people to not light up or face a $50 fine. It’s kind of like coming to a stop light at 4 a.m. with nobody else around. Odds are you could just blow through it and not get caught but the vast majority of people tend to stop anyway. Furthermore, I just don’t think the vast majority of smokers lighting up while they are pushing Junior on the swings.

In the end, the vote last week to ban smoking might have been nothing more than symbolic, but so is the law itself so I for one think it was appropriately done.

There is the whole government intrusion thing to worry about, but when they try to ban smoking from a person’s home or car — then it’s a call to arms.

This week’s Talespin was written by James V. Franco. He can be reached at 478-5343 or by email at jfranco@troyrecord.com

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

ROSNEY ARREST PHOTO FROM NYPD

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June 11, 2012 at 5:26 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's getting a deal? Gee -- what a surprise!

June 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A certificate of relief from disabilities and he can run for council in 14 years!

June 11, 2012 at 10:14 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right off the bat;
I knew this was crazy.
But I'm Tiger Pat;
cool, mean and lazy.

That New York cop;
He did me dirt.
Right from my desktop;
in my Crabby Dicks shirt.

But I failed to see;
I would cause all this funk.
What harm would it be
by exposing my junk.

As the records tender;
I filed all the cases.
Now I'm a sex offender;
Didn't cover my bases.

That cop, He's a liar.
I was lookin for teens.
Now I gotta retire;
cuz I got arrested in Queens.

My party is planned;
Fear not fellow creepers.
Adults have been banned.
And it's Sunday at Jeepers!

My cop friends have dissed me
Dont want me aroun'
so if anybody misses me;
I'm home punchin' the clown!

June 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh come on that's funny!

June 14, 2012 at 5:09 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brilliant!

June 14, 2012 at 8:58 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mcrat did

June 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can the investigation of this pervert be concluded, when it has just begun? Does anyone believe this was his one and only attempt at molestation? How many children's lives has he destroyed? Where the hell is the outrage, by law enforcement, by his peers, the media, by the community? His victims, and anyone with a 1/2 brain knows they are out there, should have their day in court? His pension and his assets should be at risk in civil suits! The problem is, there will be no further action to discover the extent of his crimes and the damage he has done. Society is now being abused by the badge!!!

June 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the first start of the three stooges in our law enforcement in our city next up is PICHE and Rogers from the county jail that will conclude the three stooges,,,and from what I hear there not getting the sweet deal this disgraced cop has gotten,,I guess it pays to be a pervert and child chaser, The D.A. Office is a joke in Troy

June 17, 2012 at 6:47 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you get a guy out on 30k bail for Fathers Day?

June 17, 2012 at 11:20 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@6:47
It's a beautiful day , take your meds and go for a nice long walk . There is life outside of RCJ.

June 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM 
Anonymous SeeItLikeThis said...

It is disgusting this guy gets a deal this early into the investigation, the other poster is right, how many others attempts did he make or succeed at molesting a child?

June 17, 2012 at 4:00 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would get Pat a box set of the series "My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding", he could chrome his dome to that for months without violating his parole. His dude wife is telling everyone at Family Court that he is innocent, he was set up, lmao!

June 17, 2012 at 9:08 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pat Pat where are you Pat?

June 19, 2012 at 7:53 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

his dude wife. lmfao

June 19, 2012 at 9:23 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His ass should go away for a few years -- no doubt

June 21, 2012 at 8:21 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another black eye by the Troy police this time it's officer jones but he actually gave out a few black eyes to a guy who was minding his own business ,,,there's a wittness to this beating but there was a wittness to an officers son beating also this will never stop because we have a chief and a mayor who gives these guys a green light to beat anybody they want and that Bose out to there family members as well,,,Troy police is a mess!!!as well as this city!

June 27, 2012 at 6:46 AM 

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