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And so concludes the testimony in the voter fraud trial that was two and a half years in the works.
Trey Smith, the special prosecutor, finished up his case Thursday and the attorneys for Board of Elections Commissioner Ed McDonough and former City Councilman Michael LoPorto decided not to call any witnesses, which is kind of surprising to me.
LoPorto from the get-go, and as late as late last week, was telling everyone he was going to take the stand and tell the jury he did nothing wrong. And I do believe, after getting to know him a little bit over the last few years, he was more than willing to do just that. While I would have loved to have watched LoPorto testify, credit goes to his attorney, Michael Feit, for keeping him off the stand.
And while not putting McDonough up is understandable too – if not as anticipated – I thought his attorney, Brian Premo, would have put someone up to cast some doubt on the testimony against his client. I guess he thought the witnesses brought their own “reasonable doubt” to the table, which is understandable considering a number of them admitted on the stand to committing felonies either in the voter fraud scandal or before.
Anyway, the three attorneys will give their closing statements tomorrow morning and then it’s in the hands of jury to decide the fate of McDonough and LoPorto.
What are your thoughts? What are your odds?
I’m giving even money the jury acquits LoPorto.
I’m giving the same odds it convicts McDonough.
posted by Talespin at
Thursday, March 01, 2012
28 Comments:
LoPorto only convicted of handling forged documents // 5-1
McDonough convicted on most charges // 2-1
Additional charges brought against, Mac, Renna, & McGrath // 2-1
McNally indicted after FBI investigation // 4-1
Mirch enjoys another sunny day in Florida // 1-1
These odds are for the kids!
odds on favorite voter fraud to continue in troy
Both guilty..Loporto knew about it and decided to keep his mouth shut. McDonough,McGrath,Campana and all the other thieves are guilty of signing and handling . Let smarten up Troy voters...
In summations "Premo said about Smith: 'You know and I know he has failed miserably."
They are all guilty why should the rats get off free and clear and the ones that did the same thing go to prison?
@8:54- were you present and witnessed these events? If not, you should certainly consider that almost every witness (other than most, not all, voters (Gushlaw conflicting stories), lied to Grand Jury's and admitted they lied on the stand!! The indictments were based on those lies! Votes were stolen, yes, but neither you nor I can presume to know who is guilty of anything unless they have already plead guilty. I heard very little of anything about why LoPorto was there- see a lawsuit coming in the future. As for McDonough, again, he sealed some envelopes that were unsealed and that makes him guilty of a crime? The handwriting- not convinced. The testimony of O'Malley and Renna- they admitted they lied, who can believe anything that comes out of their mouths now?? Time will tell....let's see what the Jury says.
Premo on DNA if it is not his spit you must aquit
Was Clem and Gary in the courtroom!
The way I see it, based on the testimony:
McDonough's guilty of quite a few things, LoPorto of only a few. I cannot for the life of me understand how all these charges were brought against Mike, when Mac, Renna, Kevin McGrath, and John Brown seemed to do all the forging? I also find Trey Smith to be inept and incompetent for his failure to bring conspiracy charges against them all. Next, O Malley, & Guluski have no reason to be still working at the BOE. And there should be a full investigation by the mayor as to who the city employee (Natasha) was, same goes for Mr. Shneider, who is still employed by the city council, and should be canned for his involvement. Back to the BOE, Larry Bugbee should also be put out to pasture for his stupidity alone, while this was all going on around him. Kevin McGrath & Guluski should man up, and resign. Lynn Kopka needs to step in and get rid of these two slugs. Bunch of political tools.
While the proof against Mcdonough seemed to be more than Loporto I think the proof was more then sufficient to convict both men. Proof was also introduced that was significant against Campana and Galuski. I believe they will plead to felonies and not go to trial.
It's a tragedy that Mcgrath and Mac get a walk. I belive ther should be a seperate investigation of Mcgrath and his brother the judge.
Guilty of licking an envelope? Guess we're all guilty of that. What a waste of taxpayers' dollars. A prosecution that cut deals to those who committed the crimes so he could satisfy an old vendetta.
@ 11:34- keep drinking the coolaid
I agree with 3:25- How do we have two current Board of Elections employees who were involved in this black eye on the city still working in that capacity?
Same goes for the council.. It's my guess that very few voters in the Burgh knew of Kevin (scarface) McGrath's Drug arrests. He should unquestionably step down. But he'll of course have to be forced out due to his ego.
As for Gary- I guess the Code of Ethics that the council approved in November is just more political wishwash. Why pass a code of ethics stating that someone must resign if indicted if you don't plan on adhering to it? The city is a joke. I can't wait to get away to move away from this laughing stock called Troy.
10:1 for Acquital! Premo exposed Smith's CONSPIRACY! Great trial work by Premo -facts exposed at last!
Don"t see much against Loporto..McDonough looks done though..Old Vendetta, conspiracy? McDonough Sr. wouldn't run Smith for DA? Wasn't this about the time we had an excellent DA who went on to become a Supreme Court Judge? Premo sees a conspiracy everywhere. He's still bent out of shape that the Democrats wouldn't support him to get slaughtered by Joe Bruno..
If You listened to TreyTrey's closing you might have thought he was on trial bc the whole hour and a half was him defending himself and his witnesses as opposed to recapping what "evidence" he has. Maybe it's bc he knows he was taken to school by Premo, maybe it was bc he has no evidence....or both. And to the gentleman before this comment...stop being so desperate! Premo had the support of the Dems against Bruno and he would have been ten times the candidate than that Russo pawn.
3 reasons why mcdonough will be found guilty.dna on the licked ballots,his handwriting on the applications and removal of the ballots from the boe that were designated to people other than billy mac and hand delivered with omally to the city clerks office!
The lab analyst, not a DNA expert, didn't say it was saliva. The tests she performed didn't decipher between touch DNA or saliva, FYI! It was a paid opinion ($70,000) that it was McDonough's handwriting after Smith told him what handwriting he and Ogden said was his handwriting! As for the ballots delivered to Mac, it was not proven that they were forged by McDonogh. Lastly, if someone signs a ballot application without filling it out themselves or making certain it gets filled out properly, they obviously are giving you permission to do as you wish. Did these people really care? I doubt it! They were willing part of the scheme! McDonough is not even accused of forging signatures, only filling in DATA! How is that worse than everyone admitting they forged signatures and voted ballots? Why give all them deals to get LoPorto and McDonough? Makes NO SENSE!! Were you even in courtroom to hear the "evidence"?
I'm sitting with 6 people that run the courtroom the whole time and it could not have been said much better.
P.S. Franco - try posting an opinion other than Smith's.
Both acquited. They had nothing on LoPorto from the start and Premo blew holes through all of Smith's evidence and witnesses. The four main witnesses for Smith are all convicted felons and it showed with their lying on the stand. This was a set up from the start, and a poor one at that.
Smith leaves town with his tail between his legs and is never heard of again. Galuski and Campana never go to trial.
Franco is finally listening to what people have been telling him all along.
An independent group like the League of Women Voters should review all procedures of the Rensselaer County Board of Elections and make recommendations. A thorough house cleaning of the present Board staff should be considered and replaced by Civil Service people. No politican or political operative or anyone but the resident in question should obtain absentee ballots for anyone.
So 10:08 -- who did it then? Must have been Mirch -- but, he did it for the kids
Well mr. 1:27 -- how about each one of trey trey's witnesses who were given cooperation agreements? I'm STILL trying to figure out how filling in the excuse field stating where someone is going to be is a bigger crime than forging actual signatures and VOTING! Ok...so let's give the people with criminal records, restraining orders and a history of being full of it agreements so they don't do jail time for forging signatures and voting. Then, we can use them to get the REAL criminals who filled n an excuse field and have no prior crimes. Genius! Brian Premo should receive an award for exposing these career criminals. And shame on the DAs office for allowing this to happen!
intent, is the state of mind operative at the time of action.fixed,meaning, a volution! that, which is intended. it sounds like the jury is zeroing in on how many counts they are guilty of!
The way LaPorto must be sweating dont order the soup...
Clearly, an Election Law that enables "Political Operatives", "Community Organizers" or ANY Party OTHER than the Voter themselves to receive the blank ballot is by its very design, flawed and rife for abuse! An Absentee Ballot should never be delivered to any party other than the Voter and by no other method than personal delivery or US Postal delivery. All Absentee Ballots cast should be subject to a form of certification such as verification of data, signature match or other confirmable method. The current flawed law was clearly enacted to further voter fraud rampant in NY City.
The Prosecutor, Trey Smith, exposed the weakness of his case in the very charges filed against these defendants. The absence of any form of conspiracy charges is a clear indication of weakness and tolled failure! All of these defendants would clearly win any case on an Appeal if a jury ignores the clear lack of evidence establishing guilt "BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT".
Welcome to Troy, my guess is we aint seen nothing yet...
Did the Jurors ever get their Pepsi ????
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